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What a bank profits market study should focus on

PM signals market study into banking could be announced before election; Interest margins, RBNZ subsidies, bank fees, branch cuts and lack of inclusion should be in focus
As with the other three big Aussie-owned banks, Westpac has reported continued very low losses from its mortgage loans, and Reserve Bank analysis demonstrates the high-returns-for-low risk nature of bank profits here vs banks elsewhere. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The Kākā

TL;DR: PM Chris Hipkins as good as confirmed yesterday a market study into banks would be announced before the election and happen some time in the next year or two.

In a deeper analysis below the paywall fold in the podcast above for paying subscribers, I argue any market study should focus on why Aotearoa’s big four Australian-owned banks are able to make world-beating profits without much risk, including closer looks at:

  • A surge in net interest margins, partly due to cheap Reserve Bank loans and the Reserve Bank paying billions in interest on deposits of money created by the Reserve Bank during the Covid lockdowns;

  • How the banks have digitised their operations to massively improve efficiency by getting customers to do more work in the last 20 years, but have shared few of the financial benefits with customers, and in the process disinfranchised older, more rural, Māori and Pasifika customers and potential customers in the process;

  • How the banks increased their efficiency and lowered costs by pulling out of regional areas and accelerated a shift to non-cash and electronic payment systems, without investing in systems to ensure resilience to outages and access to less digitally savvy or resourced customers; and,

  • How banks understandably (but unfortunately) increased their profitability and reduced risks through a multi-decade process of skewing their lending and operations away from businesses and farmers and towards households and brokers chasing leveraged and tax-free gains from a tripling of residential land values.

…bank profits are growing more than twice as fast as public health spending and will be worth the equivalent of about a quarter of the health budget by the end of the year.

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What a market study of banks should focus on

PM Chris Hipkins yesterday echoed and reinforced comments last week from Commerce Minister Duncan Webb that a market study into banks by the Commerce Commission is likely to be foreshadowed before the election.

Labour promised in its 2020 manifesto to carry out a market study into building materials, which was agreed by Cabinet shortly after the 2020 election and completed in December last year. On past form, Labour has signalled one or two market studies in manifestos before each of the 2017 and 2020 elections. Banking looks to be on the agenda for the 2023 manifesto.

Asked if the Government was concerned about bank profits, Hipkins told his post-Cabinet news conference yesterday:

“We’ve previously signalled that we’re concerned about the level of bank profits and that’s something that we will take some time to look at. I haven’t got an announcement for you on that particular topic today, but it is something that we have foreshadowed previously that we would look at.”

Media: Can we expect an inquiry into banking before the election?

“I certainly wouldn’t rule that out.” Hipkins via a transcript of yesterday’s news conference in the Beehive.

Given Hipkins is prone to saying he won’t play the ‘rule-in, rule-out’ game, this is effectively saying he’s likely to announce a market study of banks.

Plenty of official mood music around

The Reserve Bank (Te Pūtea Matua) has also signaled it would appreciate a market study, particularly after publishing an extensive piece of analysis last week titled: Trends in bank profitability, which showed New Zealand’s banks were the among the most profitable in the world, but with the lowest volatility and least risk for shareholders. This Reserve Bank chart demonstrates the high-returns-for-low risk nature of bank profits here vs banks elsewhere:

Reserve Bank analysis in FSR report

Three of the big four banks have also reported their profits for the six months to March 31 in the last week, including:

  • ANZ NZ reporting (page 65) on Friday its half-year cash profit rose 13% or $96 million to a record-high NZ$842 million after it increased its net interest margin by 34 basis points to 2.67% and cut operating costs by $21 million, including reducing full time equivalent staff numbers by 154 to 6,785;

  • BNZ reporting on Thursday its first-half cash profit rose 23.5% or $157 million to a record-high $825 million, due largely to a 41 basis point improvement in its net interest margin to 2.45%; and,

  • Westpac NZ reporting yesterday a pre-provision1 profit of $748 million, up 8%, after increasing its net interest margin by 14 basis points to 2.10%.

ASB’s financial year ends on June 30 so it did not report in this round, but we’re likely to get an indication of how it’s going later today in a trading update in Australia from its parent, the Commonwealth Bank of Australia. ASB reported on February 15 its first half cash profit rose 11% to $822 million, driven largely by a 33 basis point increase in its net interest margin to 2.52%.

Bank profits growing twice as fast as the health budget

Collectively, the big four banks have made $3.237 billion of profit in the last six months, up 9.91% from the same half a year ago. That represents profit worth 1.658% of nominal GDP in the last reported six months, up from 1.654% of GDP in the same half a year ago. Nominal GDP rose 9.67% so the 9.91% rise in bank profits meant the bank profit share of the economy only rose slightly.

For comparison’s sake, Government spending on health is forecast to be $28.849 billion in the current year to June 30, up 4.3% or $1.191 billion from an admittedly Covid-inflated $27.658 billion the previous financial year. That means bank profits are growing more than twice as fast as public health spending and will be worth about a quarter of the health budget by the end of the year.

So why are profits so high and growing fast (albeit as fast as GDP)?

The big banks are now so big and so entwined in our housing market-with-bits-tacked-on-economy that the outsized growth of household spending, borrowing, residential investment almost automatically turns into high bank profits. When the real estate sales, development and equity withdrawal industrial complex grows faster than the real business sector and the non-real estate services sectors (such as health, education and transport), the banks do very well.

Owner-occupiers and residential property leverage their equity with bank loans to buy more homes for themselves and their kids, which the banks prefer to make relative to business lending, which is more complicated, risky and time-consuming. Effectively, our real estate obsession exists in a co-dependence with banking.

That means most of the competitive action and any recycling of profits to customers is focused on discounts for fixed mortgage borrowers, while the less competitive areas such as term deposits, transaction accounts and payment network fees receive less of the recycling. Given the relative out-performance after tax over the last 30 years of untaxed gains in residential land values, households with surpluses just save them up in banks and look for opportunities to gear them up in more residential land, rather than invest them in growing either their own real businesses or putting cash into equity in others’ real businesses.

This was best illustrated in Westpac NZ’s commentary on page 53 of the full commentary for investors released yesterday by Westpac Group

The net interest margin was up 14 basis points with rising interest rates improving
deposit spreads and returns on capital balances. Loan spreads continued to decline due to a competitive mortgage market. Westpac commentary on NZ profits.

Westpac’s profits would have been higher, if not for regulatory intervention to reduce card fees for all banks and a Reserve Bank requirement to cordon off its IT systems to be more resilient. As with the other three banks, Westpac reported continued very low losses from its mortgage loans, given the sharp rises in equity and borrower incomes in the last 20 years, and very low interest rates for almost all of that time until now. Westpac grew its mortgage lending by $1.4 billion to $65 billion in the first half year from the second half of the previous year, while its business lending was flat at $32 billion.

Westpac NZ mortgage loss rates. Westpac presentation page 68.

The big four have also been very effective at reducing their cost to income ratios over the last three decades, buying up rivals such as Trust Bank, Post Bank, National Bank, Rural Bank and Countrywide and then closing duplicated branches, especially in some rural areas where the big four have pulled out altogether.

This pull-back from the regions was particularly evident during the fallout from storms earlier this year, where bank branches and ATMs in remoter rural towns and small cities were not available for days on end because of power, internet and telecommunications outages.

When efficiency trumped resilience

The Reserve Bank made a point in its Financial Stability Report last week of calling out the banks’ downgrading of resilience and accessibility in provincial areas because of what happened during Cyclone Gabrielle.

The disruptions to the cash industry caused by Cyclone Gabrielle have highlighted the lack of resilience in the cash system and its vulnerability to power, data, and road network outages, particularly due to banks reducing branch and ATM networks and retreating from offering in-branch cash services for retailers. Given the increased likelihood of extreme weather events in the future as a result of climate change, this lack of resilience in the cash sector will need to be addressed.

This will be an increased focus in our prudential supervisory engagement, as well as a consideration in cash system redesign work under our Future of Money – Te Moni Anamata programme. Reserve Bank commentary in FSR (page 24).

So is all the profit growth justified?

The Reserve Bank also suggested some reasons why the banks’ profitability was higher than their similar sized peers overseas and their smaller rivals here in its analysis last week, including:

  • greater economies of scale after the various mergers;

  • lower head office costs, given their parents’ offices are in Australia;

  • lower risks and therefore higher risk-adjusted returns because the big four here don’t do fancier (and riskier) things such as investment banking and funds management; and,

  • investors living in Australia who own bank shares can’t use the ‘franking credits’2 from the New Zealand earnings portion of their banks’ profits.

Isn’t it good to have profitable banks that are strong?

The banks themselves and the Reserve Bank (albeit in a hesitating way) have argued the high and growing profits are both a reflection of legitimate market activity and a driver of strong banks.

It’s true our banks have relatively high equity capital levels, as do their parents in Australia. But that is at least partially due to the Reserve Bank here and the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA) both having more conservative capital requirements than regulators overseas. The Reserve Bank here has also dramatically increased its requirements, relative to regulators overseas and APRA. That is forcing banks to put aside more capital now, largely by reducing dividend payments to their parents over time. In theory, that shouldn’t affect the profitability over time, but it may lead to the local units trying to create extra profits to keep up with the dividend payments.

The local bank CEOs have argued in the last week that their profitability ratios in terms of return on equity are no higher than those of listed NZX companies. That may be true, but doesn’t take into account that the profits of those NZX companies are both collectively smaller and more volatile, so therefore should attract relatively higher returns on equity than banks.

The Reserve Bank appeared to side with the banks in its final comments in the analysis, although there was a slight passive-aggressive sting in its very last comment (bolding mine):

The benefits of profitable banks are particularly evident in the current environment, with New Zealand banks in strong positions to manage increasing stress in their lending books and a deterioration in global economic conditions.

Importantly, profitability allows banks to support their customers by taking a long-term view in times of stress. It also enables the necessary investment in systems to improve efficiency and operational resilience. Therefore, profitability puts banks in a position to earn their social licence by contributing to a sound, efficient, inclusive, and dynamic financial system. Reserve Bank comments on page 25 of FSR analysis of bank profitability.

The Reserve Bank went on to include a full analysis of financial inclusion and stability in the FSR, which made the point:

Since 2016, for instance, the nine largest providers of banking services in the United Kingdom have been legally required to offer basic bank accounts, which has contributed to inclusion and acted as a stepping stone for people to access further banking services. Reducing the unbanked population helps grow the balance sheet of the formal financial sector, and broadens the base of low-income savers and borrowers who often maintain steady depositing habit. Reserve Bank in Box B on page 26 of the of FSR

Where have all the ATMs gone?

Global Finance magazine reported in 2021 that just 1% of the population in New Zealand was unbanked, which was more than Australia and Canada on 0%, but better than the UK on 4% and the US on 7%. However, New Zealand fares much worse on access to ATMs at 63.5 per 100,000 people, less than a half of Australia’s 146.1 and less than a third of Canada’s 214.1.

…we don’t tax land or wealth, and therefore don’t invest as much in R&D and infrastructure as other countries, which means our mortgage-based banks will by necessity be larger and more profitable.

The issue of access to bank services is separate to whether the banks are generating super-profits from a lack of competition, but are certainly part of the social license issue for the banks emphasised by former PM Jacinda Ardern and noted again by the Reserve Bank last week.

A market study may well find the banks are hyper-competitive in some areas such as fixed-term mortgage lending and term deposit accounts (when interest rates are high and/or rising), but not in others such as transaction accounts, savings accounts and transaction fees.

Perhaps we should turn the finger of blame upon ourselves

But any market study may also make the point that we have the banks we want and deserve. Ultimately, the fingers of blame could just as easily turn back on the Government and voters themselves (ourselves). Without giving up on the tax-free status of leveraged gains on residential property, it’s hard to change the underlying incentives that mean our four banks earn as much in profit together as all 122 companies listed on the NZX, and with much less volatility.

We may be frustrated our banks are so profitable, but that’s just the way we have effectively built our economy and financial futures around borrowing against the value of the land under our houses, and therefore, just the way we really want it. A market study will satisfy voters and politicians looking for someone else to blame, or for a distraction from the core issue, but it won’t change that underlying problem.

Not much really changes in our housing market with bits tacked on until we we start taxing the leveraged wealth in residential land, just as other forms of income and spending are taxed here, and just as capital gains, land and inheritances are taxed in other countries.

The study may well find the reason why our banks are more profitable relative to the risks than for other similar sized banks in other countries is the same reason why the rest of our economy and society is under-invested in public infrastructure and services has underperforming on productivity relative to other countries: we don’t tax land or wealth, and therefore don’t invest as much in R&D and infrastructure as other countries, which means our mortgage-based banks will by necessity be larger and more profitable.

Ka kite ano

Bernard

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This figure is the most comparable with the others. Westpac NZ Limited Banking Group’s net profit fell 6% to $467 million from the same half a year ago, largely due to assumed bad loan charges of $154 million, including $66 million of assumed ‘weather overlay’ from storm losses. Most of the provisions are from Westpac’s business lending.

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'Franking credits’ are credits attached to the dividends from a company that has already paid tax so the dividends are not double-taxed when the individual declares their income for tax purposes. The franking credits from the New Zealand earnings of the big four can be used by investors living in New Zealand, but aren’t accessible by Australian-based investors, and vice-versa. This issue of mutual recognition of franking credits between Australia and New Zealand has been a thorn in the side of Trans-Tasman relations for decades, largely because the net effect would be a large reduction in tax receipts for the Australian Federal Government, due to the large scale of the imbalance in relative dividend flows to and from Australia and New Zealand.

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That’s the job of those Merav rightly called pathetic.

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Open it up. :)

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Will do. Many thanks.

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You need to be careful implying banks are making most of their (super profits?) from the circa 150-200 basis point carry rate between wholesale and retail rates of residential mortgages - which seems to be tacitly implied, much of the (super profit?) will come from credit cards, over drafts, personal and corporate loans. P.s - don't get me wrong, as a resi landlord with I am all for rates going back down!

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No need to imply. Click on through to the accounts to see it.

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FYI - if banks are so profitable, why is their share price over the long run so very average? Owning banks (as an investor) is a dud bet. Implying they can't be that profitable if people don't invest in them.

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This seems like a very important point. My impression was that an important factor has been the RBNZ wanting a higher level of retained surplus and the banks resisting.

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That is true, which is why the Reserve Bank has been cautious, and why I think we saw the LVR loosening a couple of weeks ago.

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Thanks Paul. You sure about that for the Australian banks once you include dividends and share price moves? Especially the Australian residents who can use the franking credits.?

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thanks burnard great summary 👍

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Happy to open it up.

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Thanks. Will do.

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No bank goes unmeasured... 🥹

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I mean, the Reserve Bank chipping in on calls for a virtue-signally 'market study' of commercial banks on one hand, while trashing our economy to keep the financial sector profitable with the other, seems a bit rich... Fortunately, it finally seems questioning the neutrality of Reserve Banks is becoming a bit of a sport recently - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxXRigHri4&t=16s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3rGFyN5uQ

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I understand the costs to use pay wave in nz are more than oz. Another example of pushing costs onto customers. What a boon to small businesses it would be to lower these costs.

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Merchant fees have been lowered (Thanks Labour!). I don't know about pay wave as we have stopped using it. These costs should not be put on the business but on the person using the card.

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Actually it’s still cheaper for the banks to have businesses and customers using electronic vs cash. Pushing the cost to either business or customer is disingenuous at best. Reduction in physical cash is part of the justification for less branches/atms.

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Indeed. The Reserve Bank in Australia regulated them down.

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And here we have the elephant in the room. The RBNZ. Forget the market study! The RBNZ just needs to do something about this.

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Hi Bernard. I can understand but not accept the closing of rural branches in view of their excessive profits. I am most concerned about the absence of change machines. Westpac has a great change machine available (3 in Hamilton that I know). Businesses need them to get change for their float but many people have to travel to get access. If banks are to close, how about requiring them to have change machines more readily available. (From Trudi)

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Interesting point. Thanks Trudi.

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Happy to open this up for all.

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The banks are particularly bad to women. I can recall a lot of appalling insults from the outset. First application in my late 20’s, which was two professional women, not partners, told “but either of you could get pregnant”. Apparently we would do that without partners and the support husbands/partners are obligated to provide legally. And they’ve been terribly sexist ever since. Westpac reporting record profits overseas so it will be diddly reporting presumably to suit there narrative. They obviously want to be more important than they really need to be and continue to consolidate their power in fewer and fewer hands for these mega profits created by Central banks for them. To no useful purpose to the country in fact to its citizens detriment. Windfall taxes on them and the others profiting from the crisis are needed and a good lever to help pay for said crisis really. It’s pretty direct which is good in terms of tax.

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My blood pressure rises when I hear that a ‘market study or inquiry into ‘xyz’ could be announced etc etc’. In a time of national and global uncertainty on several fronts, such obvious delaying tactics is just not good enough. It is time for decisions to be made that actually address economic uncertainty, climate change, inequality and other social issues. Our futures depend on action, so if not this government, then who?

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Yes Alex agreed. I feel like I'm in a night mare being chased by the wolf and my legs wont work.

What we need is a coalition of Greens, TOP, and Te Pati Maori - jump the fence into a totally different vision of where we are going

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Exactly, a radical move to the left is what is needed.

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That might give you 20% at best, up against at least another 60% who are wedded to the status quo. It's tough.

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Oh Bernard, add air - you know like a sponge cake. Your job must be damnably spirit dampening, but I doubt that many of our ancestors got to this country by adding up certainties. Time to flap our wings and get a more accurate perception of our situation.

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Appearance of action is often enough in a political sense, given our short little spans of attention amidst all the moving feasts of variables and events.

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https://twitter.com/YesSirHumphrey/status/1652407732064927745

"Minister, two basic rules of government: Never look into anything you don't have to. And never set up an enquiry unless you know in advance what its findings will be."

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At least it won't be an internal inquiry, with secret terms of reference ( Uffendell )

https://twitter.com/YesSirHumphrey/status/1643710434946498563

"The job of a well conducted internal enquiry is to unearth a great mass of no evidence. If you say there was no intention, you can be proved wrong. But if you say the enquiry found no evidence of intention, you can't be proved wrong!"

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Haha, funny, sad, and so true, thanks for the humour, we need it.

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Me too Alex, me too. How to not do something as a government, while pretending to do something, has become a well honed specialty of both major parties

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Completely agree. The way I scoffed and shook with rage when the quote reached "if we [labour] are reelected".

While not really limited to NZ, we are being failed by the politicisation of clear-cut issues affecting the majority.

Who will show us real leadership? So far, Chris Hipkins has shown very little.

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Also, I note that many banks now offer $50 and $20 notes on machine withdrawals, not always offering $5 and $10 notes which creates difficulties for shopkeepers.

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The banks are the licensed money printing arm of govt. The banks are licensed by the govt to create credit into the economy therefore ownership does not mean control as the govt us in control via licensing.

The banks were sold of or given away to the foxes to run and haven't they done well in creating huge debt and credit into the market causing huge inflation and debt burdens on the people.

The way the banking system work is to enslave everyone thru mortgages, debt and credit.

It is also designed to flow cash to from the middle bottom market to the rich shareholders of the banks to run their luxury lifestyle's.

Yes its a casino the house always wins the shareholder gets the money and everyone else gets the bag.

The answer is simple NATIONALIS THE BANKS AND BRING UNDER GOVT OWNER SHIP VIA THE RBNZ

Why do we need 20 banks when it can all be run through the RBNZ ONLINE.

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Banks do no solely make their money via mortgages.

Most banks run a huge gambling operation on the top floor of their buildings gambling on the share market and currency trading.

The banks have made a killing on the share market up to 2022.

The banks make a daily killing on the currency markets.

If you go to the top floor of the BNZ in Queen St Auckland you will see a few hundred highly qualified university graduates who have varying finance degrees trading and making a killing for the bank.

Go have a look for yourself.

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Thanks Gerald. Having watched the banks closely for 20 years, I know that's not true. Lending into the housing market will always be more profitable for everyone except renters.

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Hey fellow commentators, please proof your comments before hitting send button. I want to read what you say, as it is likely to be very interesting, but spend quite a bit of time trying to figure out what actually it is, that you are saying.

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"a market study into banks would be announced before the election and happen some time in the next year or two." Might as well not bother. A year or two? We know the answer and we need action NOW. This is just pathetic leadership from Labour.

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Thanks Merav. I recall a current Labour cabinet minister telling me a few years ago that taking on the banks was a bit like running across no-man's land in front of a couple of machine guns in political sense. The dramas of the initial CCCFA were when Labour's popularity started falling off a cliff.

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Taking on any player with power could be political suicide. I say could because that state of mind is when you only consider the well off as potential voters. We need politicians with conviction to do the right thing, willing to posdibly sacrifice their career for it. They might be surprised to find out that there are more of us "plebs" than the elite.

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Agree, accepting the current state of inertia is not an option if there is to be a viable future. Short term thinking is destroying our life support system.

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And the public should demand nothing less from any MP receiving a huge salary from us to do just that.

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Open it up

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The Government should require the Reserve Bank to open central-bank-digital-currency transaction accounts for every New Zealand resident. These would allow fee-free electronic-wallet-to-wallet transactions without the use of private banks or credit-and-debit-card companies. All MSD and IRD payments would go into the cbdc accounts. People not needing bank loans could then avoid banks and card companies entirely, and stop contributing to their profits.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018847494/matariki-payments-mooted-by-bernard-hickey

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Thanks! I like that commentary.

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This from Varoufakis is helpful:

https://youtu.be/lbji8utP6dU

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FYI I have opened this up for public viewing, listening and sharing after requests from paying subscribers. Many thanks to those paying subscribers for supporting me to make this work public in the public interest.

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Great summary! You have my vote to open it up, if you haven't already. And if you aren't holed up against the storm...

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What I was conveying is that banks do not make sole profit from mortgages they have various other methods of huge gambling in the markets via their gambling room on the top floor.

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The govt expected the banks to do the right thing but no they didn't they turned the banks into casinos and enslave the general population.

John Key is an example of a chairman of ANZ that gets paid 5/10 million a year in cash and kind.

John key was and is a huge gambler in the currency markets, share market and various business.

This is one example of many.

Plus of course the interest free mortgages to management.

Yes I agree there should be full DEEP investigation into the operation of banks the problem is the GOVT already knows what the banks are up to so why is an investigation necessary or is it just another distraction with a report issued and nothing done or achieved as usual.

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The Govt expected when they sold off NZRAIL for the new owners to do the right thing, now the owners of the time are hiding out in Ireland.

The Govt expected AIRNZ to do the right thing the new owners expanded and bought Ansett Australia with tax payers money they did not do the right thing and cost the govt and tax payer billions.

When will the GOVT learn its lesson You can't trust the foxes and the foxes motto is about serve me not serve the GOVT, Tax payer and the airline customers.

In the case of AIRNZ the governance with the taxpayers having 51% of the company has operated well for 23 Years.

But in my view i would nationalize fully

The Banks

The Energy Companies

AIRNZ

The Railways if not already

There are many more things to be done but it seems we like the foxes ripping off the GOVT and the Taxpayer.

I am predicting that parliament will be turned upside down this election which may force the many changes that need implement.

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Banks in particular should be under govt control just imagine how profitable a new bank would be with no branches reduced chairman's, boards CEO it could add billions to the bottom line.

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The current system is staggering to a collapse.

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Wait until we see more cyclones coming especially next summer and we may see huge insurance company bankruptcies as the fox directors and shareholders have taken all the profits yes the GOVT and tax payer is going to get the bag, Did the GOVT not learn the lesson with AMI which cost the GOVT BILLIONS. WHILE IT GAVE WAY THE BUSINESS TO AAI WHO MADE A FORTUNE OUT OF THE DEAL. Let the GOVT review management control. The problem is the mess is so big i dont thing the GOVT has the capacity to turn it all around it maybe that and complete authority is set up to change companies over to 100% GOVT control for the good of the govt and taxpayer.

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Actually the thing that bothers me most about the banks, is that they have totally eliminated human beings. Can that work long term? And now that such helpful people have been eliminated, along with all the customers they once helped will that lead to an increase in dementia? - just speaking for myself When everything is so abstract what do we know about people's skill and equipment levels? That would be good data to have.

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Well that’s one way to look at it. I think it misses a WHOLE LOT of socially intolerable practises by unnecessary retail banks using the Central Bank to make excessive profits. Simply look at what makes families ability to borrow or buy a house for a start. Children. So I think they’re a hostile and prejudiced actor in society. They should not have the power they do for that reason. Anyone who behaves in that way is anti social. They contribute nothing the RBNZ and Government can’t for citizens directly. And used to. Just because they have inveigled their moles into Government positions frankly to serve their interests not the general public CLEARLY. So these profits leave our country at a great rate of knots and the strong (men)in the dog eat dog scenario keep ripping women and children off. All illegally and immorally.It’s disgusting really.Without access to justice their is just a whole lot of exploitation going on of others assets and labour privately to advance the already privileged literally stealing off women and stealing food out of their own childrens mouths. Truly heinous and along with the abject cowardice of Parliament to deal with this graft in NZ.

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When the companies fall over the management just walks away and hands the problem to GOVT AND TAXPAYER. Why dont we do what they do in China arrest the chairman, board and management and put them up on trial for mismanagement and strip them off all assets and freeze their bank accounts.

Maybe this threat will make sure they manage the business correctly for the good of all not just management and the shareholders.

I am seeing arrogance everywhere while Rome Burns as the saying goes.

People are getting to their wits end and the making of a revolution is not far away.

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Hi Bernard. I know you will have explained it before, but what exactly do you mean by taxing land? How does it differ from the general concept of a capital gains tax? Thanks.

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