Top at 1% will be a spoiler at best. The Greens would join Luxon on a cold day in hell. Luxon is de facto climate denier with a thin green veneer for votes (cutting the rebates on electric and hybrids, dumping the ‘Ute Tax’ cutting, ignoring the ETS on our largest polluters, cutting funding on climate change initatives... while pledging to install a few extra charging posts). Economically he is a stanch neoliberal bent on lower spending and lower taxes while sticking to the working people in already one of the lower spending and taxing nations in the developed world. Then giving tax givebacks in the billions to housing speculators via cutting the bright line and deductions on rentals see https://thekaka.substack.com/p/repeat-the-hoon-around-the-week-to#details . Tell me again. Why would TOP support them?
Hi Brit! I don't think TOP would 'support' them at all. Perhaps I did not present what I understood Raf Manji to be saying at his TOP Auckland meeting well enough. What I took from it was that TOP will genuinely engage in policy discussions with everyone in parliament to promote progressive policies and argue for change that benefits all NZers.
TOP would fare much better if all prgressives actually voted for them.
I wish TOP the best. I like TOP. But at this point it papears that they will simply be a waste of center left votes. Hopefully we are wrong as we get closer to the election. But 4% addtional points for a minot party now at 1% is a very steep hill to climb.
In MMP it is not a wasted vote. It's like the empty restaurant: no one will step inside because no one is there. But if there are already a couple of full tables, people are more inclined to eat there. I'm doing what I can to encourage more people to seriously consider TOP. If you like them and wish them well, vote for them Brit. And tell everyone you know that you are doing so, for the sake of real progressive change!
In MMP, below the 5% threshold, it is a wasted vote at this point unless you all can pick up Ilam, which is possible, but increasingly unlikely. Otherwise, those votes will not accomplish anything except assisting in putting in a right-wing government. I wish that wasn’t true, but it is simple numbers. so if the left block loses by 2% and TOP gains 4% but not Ilam, all of us lose assuming that the majority of TOP in fact lean center left.
And don't forget TOP, who unlike the Greens, are prepared to work with everyone.
Top at 1% will be a spoiler at best. The Greens would join Luxon on a cold day in hell. Luxon is de facto climate denier with a thin green veneer for votes (cutting the rebates on electric and hybrids, dumping the ‘Ute Tax’ cutting, ignoring the ETS on our largest polluters, cutting funding on climate change initatives... while pledging to install a few extra charging posts). Economically he is a stanch neoliberal bent on lower spending and lower taxes while sticking to the working people in already one of the lower spending and taxing nations in the developed world. Then giving tax givebacks in the billions to housing speculators via cutting the bright line and deductions on rentals see https://thekaka.substack.com/p/repeat-the-hoon-around-the-week-to#details . Tell me again. Why would TOP support them?
Hi Brit! I don't think TOP would 'support' them at all. Perhaps I did not present what I understood Raf Manji to be saying at his TOP Auckland meeting well enough. What I took from it was that TOP will genuinely engage in policy discussions with everyone in parliament to promote progressive policies and argue for change that benefits all NZers.
TOP would fare much better if all prgressives actually voted for them.
I wish TOP the best. I like TOP. But at this point it papears that they will simply be a waste of center left votes. Hopefully we are wrong as we get closer to the election. But 4% addtional points for a minot party now at 1% is a very steep hill to climb.
In MMP it is not a wasted vote. It's like the empty restaurant: no one will step inside because no one is there. But if there are already a couple of full tables, people are more inclined to eat there. I'm doing what I can to encourage more people to seriously consider TOP. If you like them and wish them well, vote for them Brit. And tell everyone you know that you are doing so, for the sake of real progressive change!
In MMP, below the 5% threshold, it is a wasted vote at this point unless you all can pick up Ilam, which is possible, but increasingly unlikely. Otherwise, those votes will not accomplish anything except assisting in putting in a right-wing government. I wish that wasn’t true, but it is simple numbers. so if the left block loses by 2% and TOP gains 4% but not Ilam, all of us lose assuming that the majority of TOP in fact lean center left.