Finally, someone who mentions an overseas element.
I'm about to sound like a tin foil hat cook but hey;
I do believe that there are overseas interests who are watching & rubbing their hands together. Keep in mind countries who have civil unrest or civil war are most vulnerable to overseas interference. We often think that our country is fa…
Finally, someone who mentions an overseas element.
I'm about to sound like a tin foil hat cook but hey;
I do believe that there are overseas interests who are watching & rubbing their hands together. Keep in mind countries who have civil unrest or civil war are most vulnerable to overseas interference. We often think that our country is far away in the corner of the earth, but if one thinks about it, we are in a prime spot. Isolated enough from most other countries, near enough to Asia for anyone who wishes to carry out covert operations. Not to mention access to Antarctica. 5 years ago I would have dismissed Shipley, but now a days...I'm keeping an open mind. Honestly...I'm more worried about foreign interference than a civil war.
Agreed. I think the prospect of civil war is unlikely beyond social media.
While there are certainly a decent chunk who are happy in their ignorance and willing to parrot ACT talking points I just can't see a critical mass developing in support of the wholesale destruction of the fundamentals of our constitutional underpinnings.
Don’t forget the influence of the NZ Initiative and the Taxpayers Union both funded by Atlas. RNZ quotes their press releases and broadcasts the results of the Curia poll, run by the Taxpayers Union even though it no longer meets the standards for independent polls. Atlas used social media to swing the Australian vote against the Voice. Be very afraid.
Except that, if you consider the reason for Te Tiriti, which was to settle a war here, we should not take lightly possible reaction to Seymour's very deliberate, iniquitous attempted breach. ...Consider the recent history of Northern Ireland, if you need a relevant example of what can go wrong. And I hope it doesn't, but letting the bill get this far opens the tinder box. ...I'm old and 5th gen. My ancestors came here, fought in that war and stayed. We've had good lives because we signed a treaty. We have to be accountable for our agreements. I'll stand for it outside Parliament tomorrow.
The treaty wasn't signed to settle any war. The Musket Wars that preceded the signing were internal conflicts between various iwi, while the series of conflicts encompassing the NZ wars between the Crown and Māori did not begin till several years after the signing
Finally, someone who mentions an overseas element.
I'm about to sound like a tin foil hat cook but hey;
I do believe that there are overseas interests who are watching & rubbing their hands together. Keep in mind countries who have civil unrest or civil war are most vulnerable to overseas interference. We often think that our country is far away in the corner of the earth, but if one thinks about it, we are in a prime spot. Isolated enough from most other countries, near enough to Asia for anyone who wishes to carry out covert operations. Not to mention access to Antarctica. 5 years ago I would have dismissed Shipley, but now a days...I'm keeping an open mind. Honestly...I'm more worried about foreign interference than a civil war.
Agreed. I think the prospect of civil war is unlikely beyond social media.
While there are certainly a decent chunk who are happy in their ignorance and willing to parrot ACT talking points I just can't see a critical mass developing in support of the wholesale destruction of the fundamentals of our constitutional underpinnings.
Don’t forget the influence of the NZ Initiative and the Taxpayers Union both funded by Atlas. RNZ quotes their press releases and broadcasts the results of the Curia poll, run by the Taxpayers Union even though it no longer meets the standards for independent polls. Atlas used social media to swing the Australian vote against the Voice. Be very afraid.
Curia's party and preferred PM polls do meet the standards - it was with some policy-specific polls that they asked leading questions
Except that, if you consider the reason for Te Tiriti, which was to settle a war here, we should not take lightly possible reaction to Seymour's very deliberate, iniquitous attempted breach. ...Consider the recent history of Northern Ireland, if you need a relevant example of what can go wrong. And I hope it doesn't, but letting the bill get this far opens the tinder box. ...I'm old and 5th gen. My ancestors came here, fought in that war and stayed. We've had good lives because we signed a treaty. We have to be accountable for our agreements. I'll stand for it outside Parliament tomorrow.
The treaty wasn't signed to settle any war. The Musket Wars that preceded the signing were internal conflicts between various iwi, while the series of conflicts encompassing the NZ wars between the Crown and Māori did not begin till several years after the signing