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Ugly high density housing is preferable to the current expanses of ugly detached houses. Density done well is nothing but NIMBY obstructionism.

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Since when is wanting/demanding/expecting a good quality environment for all regardless of housing typology NIMBY obstructionism?

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More often than not those calling for density done well are just dressing up bog standard aesthetic preferences or meaningless assertions about "amenity" and calling for pointless restrictions like front and side setbacks. The phrase density done well is all over the submissions of groups that are ultimately campaigning against increases in housing supply.

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Yes agree. I don’t think that Andrew actually subscribes to that type of obstruction, in fact his comments are correct IMHO; but at this point I’m so jaded by disingenuous NIMBYs that will corral whatever feasible arguments they can to obstruct change. Unfortunately some genuine concerns, and the people who hold them, get dragged along for the ride.

In Toronto (where I lived until recently) it was the same bullshit, was it design? Or parking? Or environmental? Lack of transit? Schools too full? Shading? Wind effects... there is an inexhaustible list of potentially valid concerns, but those concerns get weaponized by a group of selfish imbeciles, scared to give an inch for fear that one day they’ll need to drive past someone else’s ‘not ideal’ home.

It is absurd. Imagine if we needed a hospital, but we decided not to build it because it wasn’t perfect for people living nearby... oh wait, that’s not a hypothetical, didn’t we actually fucking do that?

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