I believe the Greens who yes, should be environmentally/socially focused at every turn, have lost a dollop of their mandate. I actually raised this with Jan Logie a couple of years ago when I happened upon her at an event ie. that the Greens (unless you are a committed supporter or insider) really were coming across as weak, silent, subm…
I believe the Greens who yes, should be environmentally/socially focused at every turn, have lost a dollop of their mandate. I actually raised this with Jan Logie a couple of years ago when I happened upon her at an event ie. that the Greens (unless you are a committed supporter or insider) really were coming across as weak, silent, submissive in the relationship with Labour they had signed into. Compromised their values too far for too long to remain credible. That's a perspective I still hold and it appears to have worsened. Our progress on planetary and social matters is very poor. So have they been effective? To the extent that once the Greens start to campaign for this election and bring out the passionate arguments again that have been on ice (presumably melting) their credibility is a real issue for general voters. Despite the fact that this should not be the case (on paper).
Thanks Perfectly. I agree the partnerships with Labour are problematic. The Greens would argue they would carry out their policies if they were in the majority. The problem is the Green refusal to credibly threaten not to support Labour, in order to increase the real leverage in the vote share they do get.
Yep. I look at what the 'Greens' are achieving over in the EU and they're getting real traction by standing up for what they stand for and by not being afraid to make coalitions with unlikely partners for the good of the cause (this is a rough generalisation of course, but perceptions count). I also look at the degree of our environmental challenges and wonder why an environmentally-based party isn't aiming so much higher than around 7-10% support. It is a disconnect.
I believe the Greens who yes, should be environmentally/socially focused at every turn, have lost a dollop of their mandate. I actually raised this with Jan Logie a couple of years ago when I happened upon her at an event ie. that the Greens (unless you are a committed supporter or insider) really were coming across as weak, silent, submissive in the relationship with Labour they had signed into. Compromised their values too far for too long to remain credible. That's a perspective I still hold and it appears to have worsened. Our progress on planetary and social matters is very poor. So have they been effective? To the extent that once the Greens start to campaign for this election and bring out the passionate arguments again that have been on ice (presumably melting) their credibility is a real issue for general voters. Despite the fact that this should not be the case (on paper).
I say this out of real frustration and disappointment as we needed the Greens to stand up with courage over the last several years.
Thanks Perfectly. I agree the partnerships with Labour are problematic. The Greens would argue they would carry out their policies if they were in the majority. The problem is the Green refusal to credibly threaten not to support Labour, in order to increase the real leverage in the vote share they do get.
Yep. I look at what the 'Greens' are achieving over in the EU and they're getting real traction by standing up for what they stand for and by not being afraid to make coalitions with unlikely partners for the good of the cause (this is a rough generalisation of course, but perceptions count). I also look at the degree of our environmental challenges and wonder why an environmentally-based party isn't aiming so much higher than around 7-10% support. It is a disconnect.